In this conversation, Anna Nalpantidis talks to dance artist Tra Mi Dinh about rebelling against the black box, competitive dancing and “immersive empathy design”. Tra Mi reflects on her award-winning Keir Choreographic piece, The __ and Olafur Eliasson’s work, Beauty. They also speak about sensorial engagement and how art can be a tool for eliciting visceral bodily experiences.

APHIDS LISTENS is an alternative archive where artists share a work they’ve made, and a work they’ve loved.

Original APHIDS LISTENS theme and music by Becky Sui Zhen, audio engineering by Nina Buchanan.

APHIDS acknowledges the Wurundjeri Woi-wurrung and Boon wurrung peoples on whose lands we live and work. Sovereignty was never ceded and we pay our respect to past, present, and future Aboriginal elders and community, and to their long and rich history of artmaking on this Country.